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the case for obama and particularly the case for obama on the economy more clearly than anyone else has on the campaign. >> no president, no president, not me, not any of my predecessors, no one could have fully repaired all the damage that he found in just four years. when president barack obama took office, the economy was in free fall, it had just shrunk. we were losing 750,000 jobs a month. the are we doing better today? the answer is yes. >> and we should say, we are actually back now to where we were when obama got in office. but do you think bill clinton is right there? did obama do all that could have been done? >> well, i think he did all that could have been done that the congress would let him do. with hind sight, the stimulus package should have been bigger, but at the time it was put together, there were two things that were constraining it. one was we didn't know how bad the economy was at that moment. it was still getting worse. but nobody knew how much worse it was getting. and the other was sort of sticker shock. it was a big number and the congress wasn't prepared
the case for obama and particularly the case for obama on the economy more clearly than anyone else has on the campaign. >> no president, no president, not me, not any of my predecessors, no one could have fully repaired all the damage that he found in just four years. when president barack obama took office, the economy was in free fall, it had just shrunk. we were losing 750,000 jobs a month. the are we doing better today? the answer is yes. >> and we should say, we are actually...
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that's what troubled us watching president obama. let's jump ahead, and some of my friends get angry when this. but i think this campaign will be a nice solid win for president obama. i want to project to the second term. i know-- >> no complacency. >> eliot: all caveats aside. >> i think a better direction and no complacency. >> eliot: that's exactly right. the pennsylvania voting i.d. structure top texas struck down. the courts are doing something hugely important. the rule of law is being established as a foundation piece of the electoral process once again. >> that is important. >> eliot: back to my question. second term you have been critical of president obama on issues of civil liberties foreign policies, where do you see him going? >> on that front we have an editorial in our last issue. i would call it the election editorial but we do say reelect president obama. because the stakes are too high. but the forward movement, we saw gay rights. we need to stand up and say we're not secure with the escalation of drone wars or viol
that's what troubled us watching president obama. let's jump ahead, and some of my friends get angry when this. but i think this campaign will be a nice solid win for president obama. i want to project to the second term. i know-- >> no complacency. >> eliot: all caveats aside. >> i think a better direction and no complacency. >> eliot: that's exactly right. the pennsylvania voting i.d. structure top texas struck down. the courts are doing something hugely important. the...
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president obama says his record on foreign affairs speaks for itself. yet a may gallup polls show vets favor governor romney. in fact, during wednesday's debate governor romney reiterated his commitment to strengthen the nation's military. >> we have a responsibility to protect the lives and liberties of our people, and that means a military second to none. i do not believe in cutting our military. i believe in maintaining the strength of america's military. >> so let's bring in beau biden, attorney general for the state of delaware. he is also a major in the delaware national guard having served a 12-pomonth deployment iraq. he's also the vice president's son. mitt romney has hammered president obama for the automatic military cuts that could take place as a result of congress failing to reach a debt deal. even the defense secretary said the cuts could be staef dating. does that hurt the president in the vet community? >> number one, congress must act and avoid sequestration op any of these defense cuts. number two, you know, governor romney seems to c
president obama says his record on foreign affairs speaks for itself. yet a may gallup polls show vets favor governor romney. in fact, during wednesday's debate governor romney reiterated his commitment to strengthen the nation's military. >> we have a responsibility to protect the lives and liberties of our people, and that means a military second to none. i do not believe in cutting our military. i believe in maintaining the strength of america's military. >> so let's bring in...
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when you went head-to-head with obama in 2008, the polls said 51% obama, 38% mccain. do you think you would have done better against the obama that was debating this week? >> i think so, piers, but you know, it would sound like i am now trying to rewrite history or i would have done better. you know, i never tried to do any of that looking back and certainly not in anger or bitterness. but i think it is true that during the 2008 campaign, the president or then senator obama had no record to defend, and one of the reasons why mitt did so well in this debate was because mitt was -- i think very legitimately, attacking his record, whether it be the $90 billion in subsidies for energy or a number of the other things that he pointed -- the failure of dodd-frank, and so the president had a record to defend this time, but one, do not underestimate the president of the united states. he will come back strong. i think mitt has to be prepared for that. and also, as you mentioned, these job numbers will give him a bit or something of a boost today. >> we've got the vp debate com
when you went head-to-head with obama in 2008, the polls said 51% obama, 38% mccain. do you think you would have done better against the obama that was debating this week? >> i think so, piers, but you know, it would sound like i am now trying to rewrite history or i would have done better. you know, i never tried to do any of that looking back and certainly not in anger or bitterness. but i think it is true that during the 2008 campaign, the president or then senator obama had no record...
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let me hear some obama substance. your substance is always to attack romney. >> if he had a couple of sharp ideas and looked like he liked the job, he would have had a much better debate. >> mitt romney said my health care plan will do the same thing. >> it doesn't seem to me that it's as binary as this, mr. speaker. think there's an issue of whether something has to give. can you talk about fact checkers, simpson and bowles, i've spoken to them specifically and romney praises them. they say look the math doesn't add up. something has to give. you have to specify where the deductions are, you can't increase defense spending, extend the bush tax cuts, do 20% on top of that and just say, well no, it's going to be okay. we'll grow our way into it. that does raise a fair amount of scrutiny. >> sure. i think that's legitimate. first of all. romney has said to the degree they can't get the loopholes closed in congress, he'll reduce the tax break. that he's going to stick to the principle, it's going to pay for itself. secon
let me hear some obama substance. your substance is always to attack romney. >> if he had a couple of sharp ideas and looked like he liked the job, he would have had a much better debate. >> mitt romney said my health care plan will do the same thing. >> it doesn't seem to me that it's as binary as this, mr. speaker. think there's an issue of whether something has to give. can you talk about fact checkers, simpson and bowles, i've spoken to them specifically and romney praises...
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president obama was sitting right there. he could have confronted governor romney on any number of issues and drowning the distinction. >> isn't our job to actually never mind that the quality of the theatrical performance but to ask about, were there untruths spoken in that debate and there were a lot. >> about that -- >> because president obama was loose with the fact. >> they were minor. >> ah. >> he said -- >> $4 trillion plan to cut the deficit. >> he said health care premiums are rising at the slowest rate in 50 years. >> those are minor compared with -- >> you know what, let's dig into those when we come back. take a quick break. a lot more roundtable including previewing the vp debate and last time it inspired "saturday night live." >> with barack obama you'll pay higher taxes. not with me and my fellow maverick. we're not afraid to get maver k mavericky in there and ruffle some feathers and not allow that and also to the great ronald reagan. >> and later "this week's" other big debate. >> american foreign policy has
president obama was sitting right there. he could have confronted governor romney on any number of issues and drowning the distinction. >> isn't our job to actually never mind that the quality of the theatrical performance but to ask about, were there untruths spoken in that debate and there were a lot. >> about that -- >> because president obama was loose with the fact. >> they were minor. >> ah. >> he said -- >> $4 trillion plan to cut the deficit....
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obama disputed that that was independent but did not dispute the $4000 figure. and in the meantime president in cleveland making fun of mitt romney. listen to this. >> for all of you moms and kids out there. don't worry, somebody is getting tough on big bird. elmo, you better make a run for it. governor romney is going to let wall street run wild again but bring the hammer down on sesame street? >> and democrats are wondering where that president obama was in the debate on wednesday and people wonder if he will be tough one on one when he has the stage. >>> and the obama touting a 181 million for september we have yet to hear from the romney campaign how they did last month. >> thank you for bringing us up to date from the romney camp. >> i don't know what the right number is, but i will tell you, these numbers don't smell right when you think about where the economy is right now. >> what about those recent numbers in the latest job report and showing a dip in the unemployment. former chairman jack welch is skeptical. meaning that employers added a modest 114,00
obama disputed that that was independent but did not dispute the $4000 figure. and in the meantime president in cleveland making fun of mitt romney. listen to this. >> for all of you moms and kids out there. don't worry, somebody is getting tough on big bird. elmo, you better make a run for it. governor romney is going to let wall street run wild again but bring the hammer down on sesame street? >> and democrats are wondering where that president obama was in the debate on wednesday...
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president obama did not win the first debate against mitt romney. whether or not you're happy about that, he didn't win. but if your takeaway from this conspiracy theory in this debate is the reason the president didn't win is because mitt romney cheated, then what is the utility of that theory for you? what is the utility of that information? how do you think president obama should then prepare for the second debate? should he just do exactly what he did this past wednesday night, except keep a closer eye out for the cheating because that is the only reason he lost? i mean, it may be comforting to tell yourself this is what really went wrong here but that is not really what went wrong here, and making the case that it was what went wrong does not help your candidate. the worst example of this though, the invention of a comforting new parallel reality that does not mean you have to face hard truths. the worst new instance of this is how the right today responded to the new jobs numbers. today the unemployment rate dropped from 8.1% to 7.8%. it didn'
president obama did not win the first debate against mitt romney. whether or not you're happy about that, he didn't win. but if your takeaway from this conspiracy theory in this debate is the reason the president didn't win is because mitt romney cheated, then what is the utility of that theory for you? what is the utility of that information? how do you think president obama should then prepare for the second debate? should he just do exactly what he did this past wednesday night, except keep...
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and the barack obama every day that they see on the campaign trail, the barack obama we saw in wisconsin the day after the debate, is a president who is fighting for them. and this president has to do that in those moments when there are millions of people watching on tv. >> here is an example of the closing statement by the president that people felt was so lackluster. watch a clip of this. >> you know, four years ago, i said that i'm not a perfect man, and i wouldn't be a perfect president. and that's probably a promise that governor romney thinks i've kept. >> mike murphy. >> well, yeah. the president -- as the speaker said, the president got a huge chunk of unfiltered television time and lost the debate because he had nothing to say. that is a fundamental problem of the obama campaign. they have the thinnest election brochure ever. very short on accomplishments. huge national debt. none of the jobs promised. now trying to start a parade about economic statistics and saying things are now just as bad as they were when he started. what i think really worked in the debate was romney see
and the barack obama every day that they see on the campaign trail, the barack obama we saw in wisconsin the day after the debate, is a president who is fighting for them. and this president has to do that in those moments when there are millions of people watching on tv. >> here is an example of the closing statement by the president that people felt was so lackluster. watch a clip of this. >> you know, four years ago, i said that i'm not a perfect man, and i wouldn't be a perfect...
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what's the obama white house saying about all of this? >> they're effectively saying that the economy, while it's still weak, is showing signs that the president's policies are working, that his agenda is finally getting traction in the economy. here's what the president had to say. >> there are too many middle class families that are still struggling to pay the bills. they were struggling long before the crisis hit. but today's news certainly is not an excuse to try and talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> that was friday right after the jobs numbers came out. i'll point out two meaningful things about those jobs numbers. one, you recall when his stimulus plan came out somebody in his administration said with the stimulus plan. it was never a promise, a projection. symbolically it's meaningful this is now below 8%. also now it's fallen for the first time not because fewer people are looking for jobs. actually, the number of people looking for jobs r
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it was obama's fault, and romney was mr. fix-it. and in each of those tenets it seemed to me they have gone out the window. i think obama will start asking where is the beef. the numbers are very clear about the economic turnaround since he's been president. he has an economic jobs recovery act now which by everybody's reckoning would create somewhere between 1 million and 2 million jobs. on the other hand, you have romney who has no economic plan whatsoever other than to say i want to cut taxes below the 15% ofg dp that they are right now, and then the other night he says, well, i don't want to actually cut the actual tax rate, i want to cut rates and then i want to increase deductions and give us effectively the same amount of taxes coming into the economy which leaves him with an unutterly incoherent record. with romney you have nothing and i think the message you will start hearing next week is going back to that old mondale commercial, where is the beef, show us the beef, because there ain't none there. >> john, before we evisc
it was obama's fault, and romney was mr. fix-it. and in each of those tenets it seemed to me they have gone out the window. i think obama will start asking where is the beef. the numbers are very clear about the economic turnaround since he's been president. he has an economic jobs recovery act now which by everybody's reckoning would create somewhere between 1 million and 2 million jobs. on the other hand, you have romney who has no economic plan whatsoever other than to say i want to cut...
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obama got bin laden. i'll get big bird. you tell that so and so romney anyone who bleeps with big bird bleeps with me. big bird even extended his middle finger at the candidate. >> and you're going to count on one that we all know and love. >> reporter: big bird started his own big bird parody account. reacted by crying and showed up in a deployment split screen. >> i like pbs. i like big bird. >> reporter: his reaction was a scream. >> not going to keep spending on money to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> aghh! >> reporter: his response included a message. >> f-u-m-i -- >> reporter: a message spilled out for myth. and this isn't the first time that mitt romney has stalked big bird. >> i like big bird and bert and ernie for my grandkids to like. >> reporter: o. >> he got rid of your jobs, now he wants to get rid of big bird's job. >> reporter: day after the debate the president joined in. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird! we didn't know that big bird was driving the federal deficit.
obama got bin laden. i'll get big bird. you tell that so and so romney anyone who bleeps with big bird bleeps with me. big bird even extended his middle finger at the candidate. >> and you're going to count on one that we all know and love. >> reporter: big bird started his own big bird parody account. reacted by crying and showed up in a deployment split screen. >> i like pbs. i like big bird. >> reporter: his reaction was a scream. >> not going to keep spending...
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whether it's romney or obama let me do it my way. if i were obama what would i do? first of all let me show you. i'd come out with a 2 x 4. no no, say that line about the 5 trillion-dollar again. go ahead say it. >> romney: i'm not in favor of a 5 trillion-dollar tax cut. that's not my man. my plan is not to put in any tax cut that will effect the deficit. i will bring down the deductions and taxes at the same time so the revenue stays in. >> cenk: yeah, yeah, that sounds good. you're going to do a 20% tax cut across the board. then a 2 trillion-dollar increase in the defense budget. then you're going to keep most of the popular deductions. and then you're going to balance the budget. and then you're going to give everybody a free unicorn! that's not how it works mitt! you're lying! there is no 5 trillion-dollar in deductions that you take away from just the rich. that's preposterous. and i'm not going to let you get away with it. one wonders how long i will keep this 2 x 4 that is actually not a 2 x 4 on my shoulder, but we move forward. he says, well, before i go
whether it's romney or obama let me do it my way. if i were obama what would i do? first of all let me show you. i'd come out with a 2 x 4. no no, say that line about the 5 trillion-dollar again. go ahead say it. >> romney: i'm not in favor of a 5 trillion-dollar tax cut. that's not my man. my plan is not to put in any tax cut that will effect the deficit. i will bring down the deductions and taxes at the same time so the revenue stays in. >> cenk: yeah, yeah, that sounds good....
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what should obama get with 7.8? it seems like it's within the range there and everybody's poo-poo'ing it. oh, geez, i know why jack welch is scared that number is too damn close to reagan's number. that's probably what he's worried about. >> how this works with the president's narrative, we're moving in the right direction, don't change horses, don't go back to a playbook that didn't work, the george bush supply side stuff that i think he can legitimately tie to mitt romney. he had a narrative that says the economy is monthing in the right direction. i think this job report actually strengthens that narrative. much more than levels variables, like the level of the unemployment rate, it's momentum that i think forms voters' views on the economy. >> thank you jared bernstein for coming on. >> thank you. >>> who is that masked moderate man on the debate stage, the guy who plans no $5 trillion tax cuts? who won't cut education, insists his health care plan covers people with pre-existing conditions. it's the same guy wh
what should obama get with 7.8? it seems like it's within the range there and everybody's poo-poo'ing it. oh, geez, i know why jack welch is scared that number is too damn close to reagan's number. that's probably what he's worried about. >> how this works with the president's narrative, we're moving in the right direction, don't change horses, don't go back to a playbook that didn't work, the george bush supply side stuff that i think he can legitimately tie to mitt romney. he had a...
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to vote for president obama, anyway. and i think actually it's probably going to go away fairly quickly just because the romney campaign doesn't want to really touch this. >> the fact that he has to talking about mitt romney has to drop his line about the 8 plus percent from his campaign speeches, how much does that hurt him? >> as i said, he's been saying 8%. the president has been promising 8%. he hasn't delivered. that's one of the main attacks governor romney has been using, he's been bringing up that number repeatedly on the campaign trail. yesterday what you saw was the governor sort of switched and talking about 11% number which is the number if everybody was still looking -- the amount of people still looking for jobs from 2008 were looking now it would would be 11. he's going to say we haven't done enough. president obama acknowledged that in his remarks saying what we've been doing month after month, we're making headway, adding jobs each month but we haven't done enough. >> susan, back to wednesday night here.
to vote for president obama, anyway. and i think actually it's probably going to go away fairly quickly just because the romney campaign doesn't want to really touch this. >> the fact that he has to talking about mitt romney has to drop his line about the 8 plus percent from his campaign speeches, how much does that hurt him? >> as i said, he's been saying 8%. the president has been promising 8%. he hasn't delivered. that's one of the main attacks governor romney has been using,...
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the last three years have been president obama. don't forget, another one of the president's key campaign promises back in 2008, remember that? he said i will cut this deficit in half. $4 trillion he promised. talk about the bush tax cut expiring if biden is right and you increase taxes by $1 trillion how does that turn into jobs? >>guest: we will talk about what taxes they are talking about raising. they are talking about raising small business tacks from 35 to 41 or 42 percent. the capital gains tax is the capital we use to start businesses, that tax goes up from 15 percent to 24 percent. and you have estate taxes going up and dividend taxes going up. you have been in the financial market as long time, if you raise the taxes you know the impact it will have on investment, it will go down in the united states. by the way it is a great way to increase investment on out sourcing to china and india and germany and france. i find it to an job killer. do not have this giant tax increase but this is an example of the president putting f
the last three years have been president obama. don't forget, another one of the president's key campaign promises back in 2008, remember that? he said i will cut this deficit in half. $4 trillion he promised. talk about the bush tax cut expiring if biden is right and you increase taxes by $1 trillion how does that turn into jobs? >>guest: we will talk about what taxes they are talking about raising. they are talking about raising small business tacks from 35 to 41 or 42 percent. the...
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obama care is on the list. i use that term with all respects. >> i like it. >> good. >> i'll get rid of that. jim i'm going to stop subsidy to pbs. i like pbs and i like you, too. but i'm not going to spend money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> the fact is if you're running the race the way you describe, governor and it's not possible to come up with enough deductions and loophole that's only fikt high income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class, it's math. it's arithmetic. >> republicans insist the policies are failures and democrats say governor romney doesn't have a specific plan. republican senator johnson joins us from denver. you've been in the bubble of the debate. and most people sh most polls which are inaccurate show governor romney won this debate. and i'm curious what you think overall impact will be for the candidate? >> this is a really great performance by the governor. and i think it resets the campaign giving him on opportunity to
obama care is on the list. i use that term with all respects. >> i like it. >> good. >> i'll get rid of that. jim i'm going to stop subsidy to pbs. i like pbs and i like you, too. but i'm not going to spend money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> the fact is if you're running the race the way you describe, governor and it's not possible to come up with enough deductions and loophole that's only fikt high income individuals to avoid either raising the...
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obama's surprise, thanks hilda. hilda solis is responsible at the bureau of statistics which puts out the job numbers. >> i have the highest regard for our professional staff at the bureau of statistics. folks that have been working in this area for many years and this is a methodology that's been used for decades. it is insulting when you hear people just cavalierly say that somehow we are manipulating numbers. i find that very insulting. >> solis, not solis. for the record, here's how the process works. the raw data comes in on wednesdays, the week before the monthly report. the bureau of statistics makes calls around to 60,000 house holds and asks who is working. that's where the unemployment rate comes from. for job growth and job loss, they gather payroll data from businesses. everyone who touches the data signs confidentiality agreements. documents are locked in safes. windows are actually papered over. custo custodians don't even empty the trash until it's over. they give them 12 hours in advance with apparen
obama's surprise, thanks hilda. hilda solis is responsible at the bureau of statistics which puts out the job numbers. >> i have the highest regard for our professional staff at the bureau of statistics. folks that have been working in this area for many years and this is a methodology that's been used for decades. it is insulting when you hear people just cavalierly say that somehow we are manipulating numbers. i find that very insulting. >> solis, not solis. for the record, here's...
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. >> he did not expect romney to hold that heat and romney was able to out obama, obama. >> mitt romney wins preparation and style. >>neil: something here is going on the last 24 hours because don't look nw, but this just in: do not resuscitate. the patient is fine. suddenly, out of nowhere, the mormon is stormin'. >> welcome, everyone, i ambassador neil cavuto and this is what a roaring romney sounded like. >> trickle down government is where the president will raise taxes on small business which kills jobs. i want to keep taxes down on small business so we can create jobs. this is about good jobs for the american people. >>neil: he swings, slams, scores, way too early to say if the swing states swinging back to the challenger but after last night, the critics say they probably stopped swinging away. larry said the race ain't over but he also is saying for the challenger it is an uphill fight. what do you make of last night and how this changes the dynamics? >> everyone, obviously, just about everyone, from right to left, says that romney won the debate. i gave you a full "a" and i giv
. >> he did not expect romney to hold that heat and romney was able to out obama, obama. >> mitt romney wins preparation and style. >>neil: something here is going on the last 24 hours because don't look nw, but this just in: do not resuscitate. the patient is fine. suddenly, out of nowhere, the mormon is stormin'. >> welcome, everyone, i ambassador neil cavuto and this is what a roaring romney sounded like. >> trickle down government is where the president will...
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and ironically if you repeal obama care, and i've become fond of this terms, obama care. if you repeal it, what happens, those seniors will pay $600 more in prescription care, will have to pay copays for basic checkups that will keep them healthier and the primary beneficiary of that repeal are insurance companies that are estimated to gain billions of dollars back when they aren't making seniors any healthier, and i don't think that's the right approach when it comes to making sure that medicare is stronger over the long term. >> we'll talk about -- specifically about health care in a moment. do you support the voucher system, governor? >> what i support is no change >> what i support is no change for current retirees and near retirees to medicare and the president supports taking $716 million out of that program. that's number one. number two, for people coming along that are young. what i do to make sure we have medicare in place for them is allow them to choose the current medicare program or a private plan, their choice. they get to -- and they'll have at let two pla
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you can watch the rest of that live on cnn.com. >>> his opponent, president obama, and the obama campaign are talking campaign funds. president obama getting a boost on one hand and doing some damage control on the other. he's riding high on lower unemployment numbers, but also trying to recover from his poorly reviewed showing at the first presidential debate with mitt romney. meanwhile, romney's team claiming a big supporter bounce since the debate, saying they raised more than $12 million in the past 48 hours. >>> the highest profile islamic terror suspect in great britain is now in the united states. al masri and four others appeared in federal courtrooms just hours after landing on american soil. >>> an extraordinary trial in vatican city has ended with a guilty verdict. the former butler to pope benedict xvi was sentenced to 18 months in prison for stealing confidential church documents and passing them on to an italian journalist. a vatican spokesman says the pope will most likely pardon him. >>> gas prices in california jumped again overnight. drivers are now paying an average of
you can watch the rest of that live on cnn.com. >>> his opponent, president obama, and the obama campaign are talking campaign funds. president obama getting a boost on one hand and doing some damage control on the other. he's riding high on lower unemployment numbers, but also trying to recover from his poorly reviewed showing at the first presidential debate with mitt romney. meanwhile, romney's team claiming a big supporter bounce since the debate, saying they raised more than $12...